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Internal Family Systems: Parts, Protectors, and Permission in IFS with Kendhal Hart, PsyD, LPC-S

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Episode Summary: In this rich and wide-ranging conversation, Dr. Kendhal Hart joins host Shaina Siber to demystify Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy and explore how it can be powerfully integrated with EMDR to support trauma healing. A seasoned educator, IFS Consultant, and EMDRIA-Approved Trainer, Kendhal brings warmth, wisdom, and clinical clarity to a topic that has inspired both buzz and confusion in the therapy world.

Together, Shaina and Kendhal unpack foundational IFS concepts—like protectors, exiles, blending, and Self-energy—while reflecting on real-life clinical applications, therapist parts in the room, and how IFS fosters consent, choice, and compassion. Whether you’re new to parts work or looking to deepen your integration across modalities, this episode offers both practical strategies and moments of soulful resonance.

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Topics Covered:

  • The core principles of Internal Family Systems therapy and the roles of protectors, exiles, and Self-energy
  • How IFS complements and enhances EMDR, especially with highly protected or trauma-impacted clients
  • Clinical strategies to help clients unblend from parts and access Self-energy
  • Ethical and trauma-informed implications of the IFS stance that “all parts are welcome”
  • How to introduce IFS concepts to skeptical or non-clinical clients
  • The therapist’s inner system: working with your own parts in the therapy room

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About Our Guest:

Dr. Kendhal Hart is a trauma therapist, educator, and consultant specializing in the integration of EMDR and Internal Family Systems (IFS). She is an IFS Institute Approved Clinical Consultant, EMDRIA-Approved Basic Trainer, and the author of the forthcoming book Treating Trauma with EMDR and IFS: A Clinician’s Guide to Integrating Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing Therapy with Internal Family Systems (October 2025). She is passionate about accessibility, anti-oppressive practice, and therapist sustainability.

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Conflict of Interest Disclosure: The host, Shaina Siber-Sanderowitz, LCSW, is the Founder of Affirm Mental Health, an accredited CE provider. She receives financial compensation from Affirm Mental Health for the development and delivery of continuing education content. There are no other conflicts of interest to disclose.

Disclaimer: This podcast is for educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for clinical training or treatment. If you or someone you know needs mental health support, please reach out to a licensed professional.

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